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Offline byrdsong

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« on: December 19, 2002, 10:02:00 PM »
Please forgive me if this subject can be found elsewhere on the forums, but I have not been able to locate it if it is. . .

I am an American planning to move to Spain in August 2003, I plan to enroll in a TEFL course there and hope to find "freelance" teaching opportunities after getting the CELTA.   I am greatly interested in hearing from those of you who have done this (especially non-EU teachers).  What was the process like?  How long did it take you to find a job?  If you attended training in Spain, did your school help you find a job?  Have you had any troubles working "freelance"?

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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2002, 04:37:00 AM »
Hola, I got TEFL certified, but not in Spain.  I went to ITC in Prague, although they have locations in both Barcelona and Madrid.  I\'m moving to BCN in September \'03.  I can tell you about Prague [IMG SRC=\"modules/phpBB_14/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif\"] .  Where are you planning to get certified?  



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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2003, 04:08:00 AM »
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Hi, we seem to be on a similar path except that I\'m heading to Barcelona this Feb.  Unfortunately I have the same questions that you do so I\'m going to be peeking in on your answers for a while.  Once I get there and become a participant, I\'ll be glad to send what info I can.  What I need right away is which  school to get certification from  or if it makes a difference.  Sorry I didn\'t help but at least you can feel that your not the only one out there.  Still to come is info  on Barcelona rentals...I intend to stay there until I reach fluency in Spanish which I am  estimating would be 3-5 months as I have a little headstart.



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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2003, 10:34:00 PM »
hi Byrdsong,



I just figured out how to reply to these message boards.   I\'m also an American who is planning to get CELTA certification at the International House in Barcelona in July/August \'03.  I\'ve heard nothing but good things about this program, and it costs less than the ITC program.  I have the same questions and concerns that you have about finding a teaching job in Spain.  I\'ve emailed a couple of contacts that I made who are living and teaching in Spain at the moment.  I will let you know if I get any useful information from these sources.  Good luck to you!   [addsig]
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2003, 05:59:00 AM »
Hi everyone... i am hoping to go to Spain this summer.. i live in Canada but i a m actually a spanish citizen so i can work there legally. Now i want to teach english in spain so i guess i have to get certified.. What is the best palce to get this certification and what are my chances of finding a job once i have said certification.





If anybody can help let me know.



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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2003, 10:20:00 AM »
hello, all!  I, too, am looking to head to Spain around July or so of this year to teach english and trying to feel things out with the help of this website (thank you!).  Some people have mentioned certification courses through International House and such-- is there anybody who can give some feedback who has actually completed a similar course in Spain and still over there working (teaching english)??  It seems very tempting to have a little bit of planned organization by going through one of these institutions like IH or, as I\'m looking into, TEFL International.  Sevilla seems like a very attractive destination in which to carry out one of these courses, but are there more opportunities in Barcelona?  Help!  I feel lost and without direction... Is anybody else looking at doing a course in Sevilla or Barcelona this coming summer?



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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2003, 05:08:00 PM »
Hi all!



I have read a few comments with various questions and hope I can help a little by explaining my experience in TEFL-land.



I took the intensive course in Madrid because I now live there, although I met many people doing it because it was one of the CHEAPEST in Europe. It was a CELTA certificate and cost around 1,200 bucks. It seems that most language schools posted this as a pre-requisite with some requiring 2  years experience and a degree. This is not necessary as many of my colleagues found work very quickly in Madrid.



The course itself is very intensive - if you want to brush up on Spanish during the month, forget it! Be prepared for hard work and commitment. There are many tales of people working through the night and weekend in order to get lessons ready. I recently finished a degree and it was a breeze compared to this in terms of energy.

Having said that, the content is not difficult. You should have a good command of English but no Spanish is necessary. Just lots of enthusiasm.



If you are wondering whether it will be worth it, it is difficult to say. I took the course in October, applied for one job soon after with a good school and got it, so I was lucky that I did not have to scour the market. I am certain that without the CELTA I would have found it much more difficult. That aside the course is great fun and you can meet a load of new people who can help/advise you when settling in, so personally I would HIGHLY recommend it for newcomers to the country.



Regarding cities, I heard that many people found it difficult to find work in Barcelona and the south of Spain due to the volume of teachers seeking work. They are the nicer places to stay so they attract more people so be prepared to compete. Madrid has more demand naturally due to the fact its the capital as well as the business centre. Having said that, I hear that another big academy closed today, following the fate of a few very large schools. This will create more supply.



Somebody mentioned age...one of the nice things about teaching is that it doesnt matter. The people on my course ranged from 20s to early 50s and all found work afterwards.



I cant comment on visa etc. because I never had to apply, but I know North Americans should get this sorted out if they wish to get the full opporunity. Otherwise you might be forced to get cash-in-hand classes and do a lot of dirty work to get business.



I am still in the honeymoon period of teaching so still enjoying it. I hope you all find it is worth it and may bump into you some day. To look for jobs keep using this site. It worked for me.[addsig]

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2003, 10:15:00 PM »
hi everyone!



KCSEDDON, thank you for the info in your posting.  I just wanted to add what I found out from one of my "sources" in Madrid.  



this is "straight from the horse\'s mouth" (as we say in Texas):  



I understand your trepidation. All I can say is

it is not unusual for Americans to work here without

permits. Perhaps the best thing to do is email some of our

grads who are doing it to see how they work it out. I can

send you names and emails if you\'d like. Madrid has the

best market in Spain. Grads here usually have work within

a couple of weeks after beginning their job search. The

longest I have ever seen it take anyone who is going about

it seriously is about 4 weeks. I have lots of leads on

schools to apply with. In Barcelona it is more

competititve and usually takes from 4 to 8 weeks and

involves interveiwing with more schools. I am an American

and am lucky because I transferred to Spain from

ITCPrague. Even then, it took about a year to get my

paperwork and invloved a trip back to the USA. Most

Spanish schools won\'t do this for people because it takes

too long, they can\'t wait 6 months or a year for a teacher

to start and most teachers don\'t stay long enough to make

it worth the effort. (Usually teachers want to stay a year

at the most. WHy would a school go through a process that

takes 6 months to a year to get someone a permit, when

that person will probably only stay a year.) I have seen

gards who have worked in Spain without a permit for a year

or two eventually convince their employer to help them get

papers.



I hope this has helped.



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