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Buy nothing day coming up!
« on: November 20, 2007, 02:21:44 AM »
Buy nothing day is coming up!

http://www.mapmagazine.com/madrid/Buy-Nothing-Day-The-Ultimate-Slacker-Holiday/

Oh...I am just DREAMING of all the millions of things I am...well...not going to buy...  :)

I actually have to disagree with my own magazine here... not buying during the shopping season hurts all the people who who produce the products, it hurts the restaurant who increase staff to deal with crowds, it hurts the small shop owners who have stocked up...

I think a better idea would be to continue buying, just buy GREEN products or give a donation as your Christmas gift.

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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 01:03:28 PM »
 ;)

So to object to a boycott on the grounds that it might negatively affect the economy... hmmm. Isn't that the function of boycotts? With regard to Buy Nothing Day (BND), I don't really know if that is a criticism of compliment.  I'll think about it.

Anyway, people do have a lot of criticisms of BND most of them legit. Many people say it could affect the economy negatively (nobody buys anything), some say it wouldn't affect the economy at all (not enough people participating), and others say it will have a totally neutral effect since you would simply buy twice as much the day before in order to prepare for a day without purchasing anything. 

All of these are possible outcomes, but, for me, they pretty much miss the point.

Let's face it, not shopping one day out of the year is only going to (at most) change your consumption patterns by 1/365.25 - not terribly significant for the economy in general or you.

The day, as I think of it, is simply a day to alter your habits for the sake of becoming aware of them.  Or a day to make a personal statement against a system of  massive consumption - appropriately on what is, for many (people in the US), the most consumptive day of the year.

Going through your day with a heightened awareness of how much you buy, how much garbage you are producing, how many products are likely made in sweatshops or what alternatives there are to shopping is very eye-opening.  No, the economy will not collapse, but your previously unquestioned need to continually consume might come under scrutiny.

I agree that buying green products is a very respectable substitute to BND.  But in the end it feels like stopping your car on the street to offer a jogger a ride to wherever s/he is going - it misses the point. 

It is the means not the end – the process and not the effect.

Happy BND.

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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 03:43:07 PM »
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So to object to a boycott on the grounds that it might negatively affect the economy... hmmm. Isn't that the function of boycotts?

Not really. Boycotts are usually against specific companies...in this case they are against...Consumerism? This hurts EVERYONE. Better to be constructive and consume green products.

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Anyway, people do have a lot of criticisms of BND most of them legit. Many people say it could affect the economy negatively (nobody buys anything), some say it wouldn't affect the economy at all (not enough people participating), and others say it will have a totally neutral effect since you would simply buy twice as much the day before in order to prepare for a day without purchasing anything.

This was the case when people boycotted gasoline this year in the States for a day. The next day people filled up like crazy. However, gas is a much more of a necessity than general gifts, so I think small business owners can still be hurt.

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Let's face it, not shopping one day out of the year is only going to (at most) change your consumption patterns by 1/365.25 - not terribly significant for the economy in general or you.

Okay, so BND is useless. I agree. Money is power, so don´t put it away–FLEX IT. Rather than clear off your guilt by not buying for one single day, why not become fiercely disciplined in the purchased of green-only products and gifts?

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he day, as I think of it, is simply a day to alter your habits for the sake of becoming aware of them.

Again, it's pretty easy to do anything for ONE day: go to the gym, eat healthier, etc. The problems is that people always fall back into their old habits. [/quote]

So en fin, I think it's a "holiday" more about making people feel good without having any real results. If anything, they should recommend specific green companies for people to spend their money on. THAT would freak out the bad guys because it is no longer a case of people coming back the next day to buy a product they did not buy on BND–they've already spent the cash on "greener" competition.
 
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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 12:06:20 AM »
Hey Phil... I had a problem with the link to your article. Hopefully it was just me...  :o I just wanted to give you a heads up thought just in case.

Salu2,  8)
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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 09:10:45 AM »
Hiya Phil,

Link didn't work for me either!

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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2007, 10:23:55 AM »
What happens when you click on the article? It works fine for me... Please try again and let me know:

http://www.mapmagazine.com/madrid/Buy-Nothing-Day-The-Ultimate-Slacker-Holiday
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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2007, 06:39:26 PM »
Well, whatever was wrong with the link seems to be fixed now!

Ufff! This Friday is BND? Is this "holiday" being promoted in the USA? Really? I cannot see it taking hold this Friday since this Friday is Black Friday (Friday after Thanksgiving).

As far as BND taking hold in Spain, I don't see it happening. What I see happening here is the level of consumerism rising year after year... one only has to look at the problems with personal debt here in this country and that many individuals "don't make it to the end of the month". A lot of people are living beyond their means here...especially in Madrid where it seems that "keeping up with the Garcias" has firmly taken hold.

If you are looking for a "green group" try signing up for www.freecycle.org. They have a dedicated group here in Madrid and is a great way to get something second hand or to recycle something that you no longer want!  :)
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Re: Buy nothing day coming up!
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2007, 09:01:01 PM »
Another pro-bike group is  BiciCritica

They are the ones rolling around Madrid naked. Here's a video we did about it . Now I think this makes more of a point that not buying on Friday. At least it gets more attention, which makes more sense, no?
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