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Offline Charles

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"bicing" Is Taking Barcelona By Storm. ¿y Madrid?
« on: June 17, 2007, 06:22:45 PM »
Hola all of you in Madridland,

Just wondering if there are plans in Madrid (or Valencia or Sevilla, etc.) to institute a bicycle lending service as part of the public transport system? Barcelona's started in April and has really taken off. This teacher uses it for fun and (a little) for work. Here's a link to the English language version of the web site:

http://www.bicing.com/modulos/modulos.php?...%3D%3D&Nw%3D%3D

Cheers
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2007, 10:49:41 AM »
It seems a good idea, but Madrid is a city of hills. I think we would need some motorised help with our \"bicing\".
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2007, 12:27:23 PM »
This is a great idea. I saw something similar in Córdoba in the fall of 2005 but it seemed to be on a smaller scale.  

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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2007, 02:44:21 PM »
ahhhhhhhhh, isn´t it amazing how the city can bend the rules when it is in their b€$t Int€r€$t. I have yet to see a Bicing patron with the \"obligatory\" helmet and as a driver and walker in Barcelona they are a danger because like motorcycle riders they think they are the only ones that exist...on the funny side, I did see one of them run into another biker when the two of them couldn´t agree on who would go left and who would go right, so they are good for entertainment.  :lol:  Seriously though...how is it that there is such an agressive campaign in Catalunya to wear motorcycle helmets, car seatbelts, and other safety devices, but not one group has come out to denounce this?
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"bicing" Is Taking Barcelona By Storm. ¿y Madrid?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2007, 03:41:42 PM »
In Sevilla, it's called Sevici, and it's part of the larger project for the metro/streetcars. They have a bike lane now throughout most of the city, but a lot of pedestrians don't seem to care and walk right down the middle of it, cross without looking, etc. Maybe they will get the hang of it eventually. I, personally, think it's a good idea except that with the heat here, if you bike to work you'll arrive pretty sweaty...

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2007, 04:05:32 PM »
Hey Charles, thanks for sharing that information.

Well, it seems that Barcelona is still at the forefront of innovative ideas! I think it's a great idea! However, in Madrid, I think the concept would be virtually impossible. Apart from all the hills as Beckett mentioned, the drivers themselves would be a serious reason for not trying to implement such a mode of transportation here.

Madrid drivers feel that they own the road and have little mercy when it comes to cyclists. Sometimes crossing at a pedestrian crosswalk is a life-threatening odessy....God forbid you try crossing with a baby carriage.

Seeing as the local government has just spent gobs of money on the Metro and expanding it so much that it is now the 2nd longest in Europe after London, I really don't think they will spend anymore money on public transport concepts for a great while.

I think the cyclists will have to be appeased with the recreational use of the bicycle on the Anillo Verde.

P.S. Shiloh, nice to see you back here!
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"bicing" Is Taking Barcelona By Storm. ¿y Madrid?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2007, 01:21:58 PM »
Bicing is not intended for \"long haul\" riding or heavy recreation. It's part of the city's public transport system and one of it's purposes is to ease congestion in the city center -- auto congestion and crowding on buses and metro lines.

So, it's really meant for short trips to take care of things in the center of the city. The maximum time you can use a bike is two hours. During the week I usually use it for 30 minutes or less at a time. Only on weekends do I take longer recreational rides, sometimes of up to two hours.

Regarding going to and from classes, it's not practical for me to use for most of my classes. But almost everyday I use it to get out of my neighborhood to a metro station, rather than walking or taking a bus to one. I also use it when I have a trip on two metro lines -- that is I substitute a bike ride for the first part of the journey and park the bike at the station I normally would be doing a transfer in. Ditto for getting home. So, I get a little exercise, I get to the metro (or home) a little faster and I get to spend a little more time outside.

Barcelona still does not have nearly enough bicycle lanes, but it has definitely improved over the years and I have heard there are plans to make more imrovements. We'll see about that.

As for Madrid being hilly and BCN being flat (Barcelona is NOT flat), well, I've lived in both cities and I don't think such a system (i.e. focused on the city center) would be unworkable in Madrid because of that. The traffic and drivers might be a challenege though. Which is where I guess bike lanes would come in.

Great to hear Sevilla's got a similar service. Yeah, the sweat can be a problem here, too, although I usually cool off on the metro before getting to class.

So, come on Madridlenos, get your bikes in gear!  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 01:19:58 PM »
No! On reflection I think I will continue to take Madrid's excellent Metro when my journey is up hill and will get my exercise by walking the downhill journeys. I noticed that the riders in the Madrid nude bike ride chose a basically downhill route. Very wise. But how did they get home again???!!
Ride nude on the Metro??

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 07:06:10 PM »
Interesting comments about the metro here.  I prefer the bus and walking to my destination.  I promised myself that this time I will take the stairs going out of the metro instead of the escalators.  I have to get in exercise whenever I can.

Shawn
« Last Edit: June 27, 2007, 06:17:12 PM by SRedw »